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General Discussion / Re: renaming all my source files

« on: 2023-11-04 17:06:07 »

since i wanted to simply rename the files but keep the galleries and assigned galleries intact as well as whatever keywords have been created, i thought i had to rename them in tp5. i thought if i renamed the files in windows things would get messed up.

Correct!

well that didn't happen. i hilited all the files in the source folder, and while the option was there, i got an error message saying i could not rename

Is that all that it said? I guess that might happen if some of the files are read-only or otherwise write-protected.

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General Discussion / Re: what the heck happened

« on: 2023-11-03 04:37:20 »

anyway i wanted to know where these 14files came from, and yes they are my files. they should not be there at the top of the image folder when i open tp5. it should be newest to oldest.

If the order is 'numeric' as I think you said earlier, then the filenames (not dates) would determine their order. If that's not the case, I can think of only three possible (but not very likely..) explanations:

1) Maybe the sort order is not set to the 'last modified' date (i.e. the time/date stamp of the files in the filesystem), but to a user field that gets its value from the 'original date/time' EXIF field stored inside the image files.

2) If a) the sort order setting of the thumbnail listing has the 'thumbnails last' option set, and b) thumbnails are created automatically as you browse folders, and c) those images were new to that folder.. then those files might show ahead of other thumbnails, but they should take their proper position when you refresh the listing (F5) or when you visit it a 2nd time.

3) If something went wrong with the creation of those thumbnails, they may also show ahead of other thumbnails. In rare cases this happens with corrupted files or files that TP isn't fully compatible with. That seems unlikely here because they were JPGs, but if the problem is persistent, you could try this with one of those JPG files: View the file in TP and press Ctrl+C to copy the image to the clipboard. Then exit the viewer and use the 'Thumbnail | Make from Clipboard' command to make a new thumbnail for it based on the image that now resides on the clipboard (this thumbnail should be 100% fine). Then press F5 to refresh the thumbnail listing and it should be shown at its proper position.

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General Discussion / Re: what the heck happened

« on: 2023-11-02 21:22:11 »

Not sure what you mean by 'source folder'. I assume it's a regular folder on your harddrive.

Do you recognize the images as belonging to you? Have you (or anyone else in your household) been using other image browsing / viewing / editing software, or file management software, that may have put them there? Or that may have created temporary files there?

ThumbsPlus is just showing you what is (or has been) there. If the presence of the images bothers you, why don't you just delete them or move them somewhere else?

Maybe you can re-make the thumbnails in that folder to make sure that they represent the current situation. In that case, I would:

- Set ThumbsPlus to show files of ALL types (not just 'selected')
- Then I would select all thumbnails in that folder and press Shift+Del to delete them.
- Then press F5 to refresh the thumbnail listing.
- Then do 'Thumbnail | Scan Folder' (Shift+Alt+F3) to create new thumbnails for all files in the folder.

These instructions would work with the current version of ThumbsPlus, but your TP5 may use different shortcuts or menu items to accomplish these tasks.

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General Discussion / Re: deleting orphaned FOLDERS

« on: 2023-10-26 12:45:50 »

"Indicate thumbnails

Checking this option causes ThumbsPlus to use differently colored folders to indicate "interesting" folders. Folders which contain thumbnails are colored green; folders which do not themselves have thumbnails, but whose sub-folders do, are colored blue. This option is useful only after drive(s) have been scanned for images."

See also the help item for Location Panel.

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General Discussion / Re: deleting orphaned FOLDERS

« on: 2023-10-24 07:57:49 »

I can't reproduce this in TP10.. when I right-click on a greyed-out folder I still get the "Remove Orphans <Ctrl+Del>" option there.

A greyed-out folder no longer exists on the hard drive, but TP still has thumbnail records in its database for files that used to reside there. You must have "Options | Preferences | Thumbnails | Show Orphans" on to see them (recommended).

If a right-click on the folder doesn't bring up the required command, I think TP5 still offers 4 other ways of getting rid of orphans:

1) Use "Thumbnail | Remove | Orphans" from the menu (or its TP5 equivalent)

2) Turn on "Options | Preferences | Thumbnails | Auto Remove Orphans" (or its TP5 equivalent), then browse those folders and their orphaned records should disappear, along with the greyed-out folders themselves (a Ctrl+F5 refresh of the tree may be necessary).

3) Go to the top-level folder, and use the Remove Orphans command from there, specifying 'Current Tree' so that subfolders will be cleaned of orphans too. Note that this may also remove orphans from other subfolders that maybe you'd wanted to keep.

4) Delete them manually by selecting them and pressing Shift-Del.

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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: your session is not active error

« on: 2023-08-02 07:41:25 »

I'd try again after rebooting the PC.
If that doesn't help, run TP with elevated rights (as admin). Re-enter your license details.
If that doesn't help either, reinstall, but run the installer with elevated rights.

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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Window size and position on startup

« on: 2023-05-26 19:34:41 »

Are there any relevant options in the properties of the ThumbsPlus shortcut on your desktop?

Are you using any monitor/desktop management software (that may have come with your videocard) ?

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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Window size and position on startup

« on: 2023-05-26 11:50:07 »

See Options | Viewing | Window.

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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Gallery decoration

« on: 2023-05-03 21:15:20 »

There's no decoration for 'added to a gallery' that I know of.. why were you expecting that one would exist?

When you check a thumbnail's Properties (Alt-Enter), go to the rightmost tab in the dialog, named Galleries, to see the galleries that it has been added to.

If you want to see at a glance which galleries your files are part of, you could add a descriptive keyword (e.g. 'G-People', 'G-Dogs' or 'G-Cars') to all the files in a gallery, and make sure that keywords are displayed in the thumbnail view. Of course, you would have to remember to add that keyword again when you add new files to the gallery.

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General Discussion / Re: w10 versus w11

« on: 2023-03-19 13:04:54 »

i have an old tp5. i can install it on w7 and w10 on the C drive

can i do the same in w11???

Well, if it works with Windows 10, chances are that it will with Windows 11 too.

However, you should be sure NOT to install it in Program Files or another system directory that is write-protected by the 'UAC / User Access Control' feature in modern Windows versions. I still continue to use some very old programs myself, and I've created a folder 'C:\LegacySW' to install them in.

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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Thumbnails from newer RAW format files

« on: 2023-02-06 14:56:07 »

I curious to know if there is now a good work around in ThumbsPlus to create thumbnail images of the more recent camera RAW formats, specifically .CR3.

I don't think there is. ThumbsPlus offers two plug-ins for loading raw files, and both are based on DCRAW which hasn't been updated since 2016.

I think I'd try two things:

1) Create a filetype definition for the .cr3 format, tell TP to load it through the Digicam or Digiraw plug-in (try both) and in the options of that plug-in, tell TP to use the .jpg thumbnail that is embedded in raw files. With luck, one of the plug-ins might manage to retrieve the thumbnail even if it doesn't fully support the .cr3 format.

2) Apparently the Libraw raw development toolkit comes with a program named dcraw_emu.exe that emulates DCRAW but that is up to date in terms of raw formats supported. When you look in your TP10 program folder, there's a BIN sub-folder that contains the original DCRAW.EXE. You could rename that e.g. to DCRAW-old.exe and then copy DCRAW_EMU.EXE into that folder and rename it to DCRAW.EXE. That way, you will have replaced the old dcraw with a new one that should function very similarly to the old one, except with support for new raw formats. Then launch TP and see if you can get it to load your .cr3 files (and any other raw files). If this works, you should not have to specify in the plugin options that the embedded thumbnail should be used (though for the purpose of thumbnailing, it is quite a bit faster than developing the actual raw data).

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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: This Format Requires ThumbsPlus Professional Edition?

« on: 2023-01-31 22:09:25 »

No!  'Load file using' has nothing in it.

Alright, my filetype definition for the jpg extension looks like this:

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Equivalent to type: (none)
Category:Image
Class: Raster

Load file using: Internal >>  (empty)
Edit file Using: Association >> (empty)
Print file using: Internal >>  (empty)

Not associated with ThumbsPlus
No linked extensions.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

I believe these were the default settings, and they work fine here, on Win 11 Pro.

BTW, where is the last Pro version to download?

It's not a separate download. The 'Pro' features are unlocked when you enter a pro level license number.

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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: This Format Requires ThumbsPlus Professional Edition?

« on: 2023-01-31 18:04:22 »

That's strange. If you have the Pro version, have you tried re-entering your license details? (Help | Enter Registration in the menu).

Are you sure that the files are actually JPG files and not some misnamed other type?

When you right-click on a JPG file and choose 'Configure File Type', does the 'Load file using' setting say 'Internal'?

Have you changed anything about ThumbsPlus or Windows in recent days? Like, installed a plug-in, changed user accounts, re-installed ThumbsPlus..?

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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Restrict search to Gallery - is it possible? - Would be a great feature

« on: 2023-01-25 16:55:11 »

I just realised that those old newsgroup messages must have been written with the old .TD4 database format in mind. Hopefully you can 'translate' the field names to those used by TP8 and higher.

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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Restrict search to Gallery - is it possible? - Would be a great feature

« on: 2023-01-25 16:49:06 »

Hi Ernst,

I don't know about those date searches. Maybe we can look into that later.

As for gallery searches: If you don't like SQL, a possible workaround is that you simply assign a unique keyword to all the files in that gallery, and then do a regular search for that keyword, plus your additional search criteria.

If you prefer an SQL method, I will copy 2 very old but relevant messages below from the old Cerious Newsgroups. They come without their original context (otherwise I'd have to copy and paste whole threads), but the information contained in them could still be helpful, I think.

Regards,

-Daan-

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From: "Jose G. Filippa" <jose@cerious.com>
Newsgroups: cerious.support
Subject: Re: Thumbsplus 7.0 problem with gallery search
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 10:14:46 -0300

Hi Chris,

In order to find those thumbnails which are included in at least one gallery
or sub-gallery but are not included in a specific gallery you should use the
following SQL statement:

tn.idThumb in (select gt.idThumb from GalleryThumb as gt) and tn.idThumb not
in (select GalleryThumb.idThumb from GalleryThumb inner join Gallery on
GalleryThumb.idGallery=Gallery.idGallery where Gallery.name like 'UF\%')

Now for a set of galleries and sub-galleries you should use:

tn.idThumb in (select gt.idThumb from GalleryThumb as gt) and tn.idThumb not
in (select GalleryThumb.idThumb from GalleryThumb inner join Gallery on
GalleryThumb.idGallery=Gallery.idGallery where Gallery.name in
('UF\Gallery1','Temp'))

(Note that you can not use wildcards when using the "in" operator.)

Or if you really need to use wildcards:

tn.idThumb in (select gt.idThumb from GalleryThumb as gt) and tn.idThumb not
in (select GalleryThumb.idThumb from GalleryThumb inner join Gallery on
GalleryThumb.idGallery=Gallery.idGallery where  (Gallery.name like 'UF\%' or
Gallery.name like 'Temp%'))

By the way, your query (the one that hung your ThumbsPlus) worked OK in
ThumbsPlus in my system. I will continue investigating about this issue.

Best regards,

José G. Filippa
Cerious Software



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From: Uwe Zimmermann <uwezi@/no_mail/sciencetronics.com>
Newsgroups: cerious.support
Subject: Re: Search Gallery
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 12:56:16 +0100

Until galleries finally work like normal directories, you should be
able to use the additional SQL query:

this is for one specific gallery "galleryname"
-----------------------------------------------
exists (select idThumb from gallerythumb gt inner join gallery
ga on gt.idGallery = ga.idGallery where ga.name = 'galleryname' and
gt.idThumb = tn.idThumb)

this is for images in any gallery
-----------------------------------------------
exists (select idThumb from gallerythumb gt where
gt.idThumb = tn.idThumb)

    Uwe.