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I've spent the last 45 minutes trying to figure out how to Tag an image into my gallery called "Review", rather than the default (Tagged Images).

That's not possible. When you tag images, they're also put in a gallery for your convenience, but as you have found, you can't specify a different gallery than 'Tagged Images'.

Is there a way to do this, or shall I give up and use the default?

The quickest way is probably to just tag (INS) the files one by one and then, when you're done, use Edit | Select By | Tagged (Ctrl-Alt-T) to select all the tagged files, and add them collectively to the gallery of your choice. Afterwards, use Ctrl-INS to clear the tags.

Or, try to find third party macroing software that you can use to automate the process. You would use that to record a set of keyboard and/or mouse actions (which would add the file under the cursor to the desired gallery) and assign that to a single key. This site offers some free recommendations, but there are probably more and newer options when you google around a bit:

Yes - see Options | Prefs | Disks & Folders for lots of options.

ThumbsPlus Beta Discussion / Re: Update News?
« on: 2020-08-14 04:54:21 »
Yes, Runner. I do not find it appropriate to post negative speculations about a product or company on that company's own server. They're kind enough to host this user-to-user forum and it would be wrong to use it against them.

Like it says: when you acquire a pro-level license, the watermark will be gone. There's no other way.

Options -> Customize -> Colors

Excellent Jens, thanks!

ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Can't get video to work
« on: 2020-07-08 15:21:40 »
Have you tried playing those videos in Windows Mediaplayer?  ThumbsPlus doesn't really play videos, it just tells Windows to do so (using the DirectShow functionality of Windows).

If your Windows system cannot play those files (except through 3d party players like VLC), have you tried..:

- to Identify the FourCC of a video that does not play correctly
- to Check which codec is handling that FourCC on your system?

Useful tools: G-Spot and Codec Tweak Tool.

On my antique system, I can use the FFDShow 'Video Decoder configuration' utility to assign FourCCs to the LibAVCodec decoder which always seems to work fine. Apparently newer systems that have the K-Lite codec pack installed use the 'LAV Video decoder' (still based on libavcodec) which may have a separate configuration tool - I don't know.

Side note: if you happen to have the Haali Media Splitter installed on your system, you may have to remove that and re-install the LAV filters or the K-Lite pack to get them to work correctly.

It seems that ThumbsPlus things I use a lot – galleries, keywords, annotation – are connected to how I happen to be navigating to the image.

Correct. ThumbsPlus identifies images (and matches them to their record in the database) by their full path. Depending on settings, type of medium and on whether it's a network environment, these elements may be used:

 - Server name
 - Drive volume label
 - Drive serial number (CD/DVD removable media)
 - Folder and subfolder names that lead to:
 - the Filename
 - Full UNC path

(note that drive letters are NOT used!)

I have 3 choices which until now I paid no attention to:
•   A path name starting with \\fieldcloud5\nasonly1\OURPICS...
•   A path name starting with \\\nasonly1\OURPICS...
•   A path name starting with  N:\OURPICS…  (“N” is a mapped drive referring to the NAS location)

Yes. To avoid this, you have to be consistent in how you navigate to your images. Options | Preferences | Disks & Folders may help you by turning on/off some entries in the folder tree. You can make often-used long and tedious paths 'favorite folders' (Tree menu) so you can jump to them quickly.

It appears from spot checking through the galleries, that most thumbnails there happen use the \\fieldcloud5....path name.

Hint: You can display the path underneath each thumbnail, and sort the thumbnail view on path. Use the light bulb icon and the primary sorting field in the toolbar above the thumbnail listing.

•   Which of those methods of navigation is the best?  I thought that the mapped drive is best, since I can keep it the same and change NAS locations and configurations. But the gallery observation seems to contradict this.

I don't know if any method is always better than another, but I don't use a network myself. Theoretically one method might be faster or more reliable than the others. I think your preference for a mapped drive makes sense though.

•   Does the answer to this depend on how I originally navigate to the database location?  i.e. are some of these relative to that?

No. The location of the database file is irrelevant. But how you navigate to an image when you thumbnail it decides where in the tree it will show up. And if you later browse to it through a different path, TP won't recognize it and won't match it to the thumbnail record that it made for it earlier. At that point you could thumbnail it again, and you'll have two records for the same image. Well, you already found that out :)

How do I get the annotations, keywords and gallery membership information that exists only in thumbnails with other paths into those in the preferred path?

You might be able to use Access or MDB Viewer and/or Python to manipulate the database directly, but there's a simpler method. When you copy or move images around using ThumbsPlus, it will automatically update their database record to reflect the new location. So, you can use that to make all your images accessible through a single path, like this:

- First: Make sure that Options | Preferences | Thumbnails | Make Thumbnails Automatically is OFF

- Second: Make sure that you have good backups of your database and image files.

- Decide on which path you'll be using exclusively from now on. Let's call that the Master path.

- Make a new subfolder in it with a name like 'Oldpath-A'.

- Now go into the tree panel and open one of the 'wrong' old paths. Find the images (thumbnails) there that contain valuable data (keywords, annotations, user fields, gallery assignments).

 [side note: these functions may come in handy when you're finding/collecting images of interest: 'Include Child Folders' (right-click on folder name in tree) to see images in subfolders. 'Tag' thumbnails (INS or Thumbnail | Tag Selected). And Edit | Select by | Tagged. Note again that the thumbnail listing can show keywords, annotations and user fields below the thumbnails.]

- Move or drag&drop those valuable images into the OldPath-A subfolder of your Master folder. If they're in a folder structure that you want to preserve, I guess you'll have to do this on a (sub)folder by (sub)folder basis.

 [side note: of course, the master folder is the same physical location as the path from which your are moving the files. By making a subfolder and moving the images into that, you avoid that images will accidentally try to overwrite themselves]

- When done, make another subfolder there, OldPath-B, and repeat the last two steps for images that had been thumbnailed through the other wrong path.

- If any non-valuable thumbnails are still present at the old, 'bad' locations, you can select them and press Shift-Del to remove these thumbnail records from the database without deleting the actual image files. You can also do this with any non-valuable thumbnails in the Master path and its subfolders.

- When done, all your valuable images can be accessed through the master path. But you'll still want to move the ones in the OldPath-x subfolders to a different, final destination within the master path. Also, there may be non-thumbnailed images in/below the master path that you'll still want to thumbnail (and maybe assign keywords to, etc).

- After so much shuffling and deleting of records it may be a good idea to run Database | Advanced | Compact and Repair.

If you decide to use this method, it may be a good idea to start small with only one or a few files to see if everything works as expected. Good luck!

ThumbsPlus Beta Discussion / Re: Update News?
« on: 2020-06-26 20:41:44 »
I'm sorry to be so brief, but the answer is simply: No

ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: MYSQL
« on: 2020-06-16 15:39:43 »
Frankly it's all Greek to me  :-X

Are you sure that the ANSI quotes mode is active? Are you using the Unicode (not ANSI) version of the Mysql driver?

ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: MYSQL
« on: 2020-06-16 14:51:36 »
I have no further thoughts for now (well, not on Msql :D ) but you may find a few more pointers in this topic:

ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: MYSQL
« on: 2020-06-16 09:22:02 »
Just some thoughts..:

Has the my.sql settings file changed, in particular the setting about ANSI quotes?
Have you tried running ThumbsPlus with full Admin rights?
Have you tried to (temporarily!) turn on tracing in Windows' ODBC panel?
In theory TP might be incompatible with your new Mysql version, but I have no details on what goes with which.

How would I use SQLite3? Thanks in advance.

Go to Database | New, give your new database a name and change its format to SQLite3. Set the thumbnail size and JPEG quality to your desired values and press Save. Experiment with it to see if you like its performance and reliability.

When you exit and re-launch TP, it may be using its regular Access type database again - this depends on your setting for 'initial database' in Options | Prefs | Startup.

I did. The image gets a little bit larger but still way smaller than the area of the thumbnail, i.e. still lots of white space. In the attached SS, the first two TN's have been remade.
The magnifying glass in the toolbar above the thumbnails shows that the thumbnail display is being magnified to 300%. Please reset that to 100%.

Then go to Options | Preferences | Thumbnails and verify that a large size, e.g. 320x320, has been set here (btw, it's best to use multiples of 8 for width and height).

Then go back to the thumbnails, press Ctrl-A to select all the files in the folder and press F3 to re-make them. They really should look good at that point.. hopefully they will.

p.s. Of course the increased thumbnail size comes at a price, which is that the database will reach its 2GB maximum size much sooner. If that is a concern, you may want to use the SQLite3 database format instead of the default Access format (Database | New). SQLite3 does not have a size limit. Or, maybe you can still use small thumbnails, but turn on the Preview of the file-under-the-cursor using Window | Show Panels | Preview. Yet another alternative is Options | Preferences | Thumbnail View | Enable Popup Tips, which shows a magnified thumbnail when the mouse pointer hovers over a file.

When I use the thumbnail database configuration to increase the size of the thumbnail, I get a small image with a lot of white space around it.

That setting applies to new thumbnails. Try re-generating your thumbnails and they should become as large as you've specified.

TP10 has a function Database | Advanced | Convert .TD4 for that purpose.

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