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Good, I hope it will help you fix the problem!

Of course, you could also use the "Edit | Find Similar" function (with a threshold setting of 5 or so), to find all different sets of similar images at one time. In the results list, you could Tag (press INS) all images that should be renamed to reflect their higher resolution. This would create a Tagged Images gallery that contains all images that need renaming. Maybe that's a faster method.

When you open your database in Access, MDB Viewer or some other tool, you'll find fields named 'metric1' and 'metric2' in the Thumbnail table. But how those are used in similarity comparisons is probably only for Cerious to know.

As a user of the program, you could simply:

- Download your website's files
- Thumbnail all images
- Press Ctrl-F on any image that you suspect has differently-sized duplicates, and use the Image Similarity tab to locate them.

then i'll go over to my backup computers, add the 10 images, and replace the old td4 with the latest one.
that is all i'm doing. all the 64bit w7's are fine but when i do the same to my 32bit windows7 the 10 images aren't categorized and the properties/galleries tab in any of the 10 images is blank, so i do it manually.

(Again, nothing to do with 32 vs 64 bits).

Are you sure that, on the backup computer, ThumbsPlus is actually using the database that you copied to it? The database name is shown in the title bar of the program and its location should be shown under Help | System Information | Database Path (if v5 already had that dialog screen.. I don't recall, but v7 sure does).

Then, are you sure that the drive on the backup PC to which you have copied the 10 images, has the same volume label and folder structure as the drive in the computer on which the TD4 was originally made? If not, TP cannot match the files that it finds in that folder to the corresponding thumbnail records.

what's the most recent version of tp that uses the same format as tp5, that i can download.

ThumbsPlus v7 Sp.2, download:

32bit windows7 can't use my current 64bit w7 database.

Not sure what you mean here. The 32/64b difference applies to executable code (programs, drivers, etc), not to data.

what does the thumbs.ini do?

It stores many of your settings.

will all my stuff run if i do a simple transfer from tp5 to tp11 or whatever the most popular version is? 5 is very old

Hopefully it will, but it has an all-new database format. You can download TP10 and use its Database | Convert TD4 function to see if your old database will continue to work.

Maybe you should reinstall TP5. Or delete thumbs.ini and see if the program will start up then (if so, it will create a new ini file with all-default settings).  You're trying to run a program from 2002 in 2019 though, so hiccups are to be expected.

Is it possible to fill a user field (for ex. "Dianame") by batch with the file name (for ex. "IMGP4711")? Its useful or necessary to rename the pictures to show them in a meaningful way in other programs than ThumbsPlus. To save the original names I would like to write them in a ThumbsPlus user field.

I think the only way to fill user fields automatically is at thumbnail creation time, when user fields that have exactly the same name as an IPTC or EXIF field, are filled with the contents of that same-named field in the image header. For example, if your database has a userfield named 'Creator' and your image has the value 'Ecki' in its 'Creator' IPTC-field, then 'Ecki' will be copied into the Creator userfield when you make a thumbnail for that image.

In fact, maybe you could use that functionality as a work-around..:

  • Use the Image | Batch Edit Metadata function to copy the filename into a metadata field of the image itself (use the 'Get Value From' button to get 'Image Info', 'File name').
  • Afterwards, re-make the thumbnail. Be sure to have a user field in your database that has exactly the same name as the metadata field that you used to store the filename in step 1, so that it will be copied into the database automatically.

ps: If your images were created by a digital camera, it may already be storing the original filename somewhere in the EXIF data.

at startup, the left pane has no tree or my galleries. it is only showing thumbnail previews.

Do you see a tab named "Preview" in or above that left pane? If so, hover your mouse pointer approximately 1 milimeter above it, and see if the pointer changes into a double arrow, indicating that there's a separation bar that you can move. Drag that bar up or down and chances are that your tree will re-appear.

General Discussion / Re: How to "get started"
« on: 2019-08-10 15:05:49 »
I have a very large number of scanned 35mm color slides (i.e., no useful "metadata" regarding the original source).

Which image file format have these been saved in?

I have them grouped in different folders, but I want to tag them with a hierarchical-style "index" so I can find individual dates, individuals, and other subjects.

ThumbsPlus allows you to enter keywords and annotations in the database, and to copy that information into the metadata of the image files themselves (if their format suits that purpose). ThumbsPlus does not support hierarchies of data (other than in the folder structure of course).

When I'm finished I'd like to be able to find slides with "Dana" (my daughter) as one identifying point.  Add to that I'd also like to add ("1972" or "1973-1974" or "Guam" or any number of other attributes.
I would add these attributes to the slides by selecting them from a group/folder and tagging them with the identifying information.

An easy and practical approach is often to name the image files after their date taken, in YYYYMMDD-nnn format (nnn being a counter for when multiple images were taken the same day), so that you can simply sort them alphabetically to find images from a certain year, month or date range. Then, depending on their quantity, store them in folders named "1972" or "1972\01" through "1972\12". Then select images and assign identifying keywords such as names, locations, et cetera.

There are "Keywords" and "Categories" but much of the information is expected to come from the metadata of a JPEG photogram, not a scanned slide.

What do you mean by photogram? Will you attach metadata to the scanned slides themselves or not?

Can somebody give some basic starting information?  (I don't know if this forum sends notifications to my email, so if you send it to, that would help.)

Have you tried the Notify button above your message?

Launch TP5 and go to Options | Preferences | Startup.

Was the correct database file defined under 'Initial Database' ?

I don't think there's any such option in ThumbsPlus 7, but if you are using a regular .TD4 database (which is really a regular .MDB database) , I'd recommend that you open the database in MDB Viewer Plus (freeware from to examine and edit your user field entries.

My pleasure, I hope you figure out what the problem is! It might be a setting in the mouse driver, or even the mouse driver itself that causes the misbehavior. When you have a large driver that offers pages of options, see if you can't replace it with a simple generic one from MS (even if the mouse is from a different brand). I've found that those often work better with fewer hiccups.

I think I must be missing something obvious.

True  ;D

Just Right-click on the saved query in Found Files and use Properties to change its conditions and re-run it.

I'd like to be able to specify my "Restrict search to:" selection to a manually entered location.

I think you'd have to change the 'Current Folder' value for a similar effect.

The inbuilt help is a little unclear as to what words like 'label' mean and the effects they have.

A volume label is a name that you have assigned to a drive. In the DOS days we would use the VOLUME command for that, under Windows it can be set through the drive properties.
In your first response, you say "Make sure that the drive volume labels are exactly the same as before,"

Yes, but that applies to regular local drives, not (necessarily) network drives.

From the Volume Properties popup I currently have
Drive X:\  Volume type : Network drive
Label  "xavi$"  ; Serial 261a7d3d  ;  File sys type  NTFS ; Max filename 255; 
Network \\BUFFALO\xavi$
Volume alias is blank.

Ordinarily, volume labels are shown here as 'Label', but from this, I guess that ThumbsPlus shows the share name there when it's a network drive (I do not use any network drives here, so cannot verify).

Q1: is 'label' in the volume properties always just the sharename on the NAS drive?

It might well be (or, maybe it depends on your 'Volume Matching Strategy' settings in options | Preferences | Thumbnails)

Q2: is what you refer to as 'drive volume label' the sharename  or is it what Thumbs calls 'Network'?

Neither; a volume label is a distinct drive property. However, in the case of network drives, ThumbsPlus can use their share names instead to identify drives.

Q3 : if I move the complete structure with thumbs folders  from \\BUFFALO\xavi$ to \\OTHERDRIVE\xavi$ 
       are there settings of the Preferences
       'Match network volume using share name' and 'ignore network drive labels'
       that will allow me to simply copy over and match Thumbs database to the moved data?

I think that should work, but there's another problem. When you use a network drive, the server name is also used in the drive identification/matching process. So, you'd have to name the new NAS "BUFFALO" too. OR, you could go into your database using an appropriate tool and change the server and share names into whatever they will be in your new network configuration.

But that is assuming that your current NAS would be replaced by a new one from one moment to the next. If you can just add a new NAS instead, so that both old and new are simultaneously connected, you can use ThumbsPlus to do all the copying of images from old to new and it will automatically copy the thumbnails, keywords, annotations, etc, in the database as it copies the files. Afterwards, you could remove the old NAS, delete all its (then orphaned) thumbnails from the database, and use Compact & Repair to recover the used space in the database.

It might well be a bug. Mine is set to 'one row at a time' which works as expected, but the 'use Windows' setting causes it to jump more like 2 windows at a time.

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