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Messages - Daan van Rooijen

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Yes, it will do all of that.

However, I would recommend that you make a backup of the database and the image folder beforehand (as I would recomment before any such 'major operation' :) )  and personally, I would copy rather than move the images, and only delete the source files once I'm satisfied that the operation has been a success.

You will also have to assign a volume label to the new drive, but I guess TP will prompt you for that if the drive doesn't already have a label.

Afterwards, you may want to do 'Database | Advanced | Compact & Repair' to physically free up the space from the old thumbnail records in the database file (if you've used the two-step Copy + Delete appoach rather than Move.. I don't think that Move alone would generate new records. Actually I'm not sure, but it won't hurt, so I'd do a Compact & Repair anyway).

My pleasure! But I wouldn't give up just yet.. you may be close to finding a solution.

(I think it would still be a good idea to make a backup of your database file, though).

Earlier, you said this:

Afters searching by a keyword I switch to the "Fount Files" folder and open a picture in the view mode. Afterwards I use the line File|Go to Folder. That brings me back to the origin Folder every time.

So, your old thumbnail records with the keywords are still there. The big question is what you meant here by 'origin folder'. Because that is where ThumbsPlus was expecting to find the image files!

I no longer have a network, but I do have some external USB drives. When I search for images that are on an external drive (but the drive is not currently connected to the PC), then the full pathname of a found image may be something like this:


Ordinarily, the path would have been I:\FOTO\2018\201808\P12345678.JPG, but because the drive is offline, ThumbsPlus shows it in the tree as <BACKUPDRV2>, which is its volume label between <> signs.

So, I am curious what you are seeing in the place of that <BACKUPDRV2>, and if you can right-click on it in the tree and choose 'Volume Properties' to see why the thumbnail records no longer match the current location of your files.

The outcome of your test was entirely predictable.  That is why I asked, in my first message:  "are you consistently accessing your images through the same path (in the tree panel) as before?"

Do you still have a backup of your database from before you changed your computer? If so, you could take a copy of that database and load it using Database | Open in the menu. Be very sure that "make thumbnails automatically" is still off, and that you do not make any new thumbnails.

Then follow my earlier suggestions of searching for your keywords, to locate the original folders where the images were stored according to ThumbsPlus (or, manually browse until you find the greyed-out folders with your original thumbnails. Maybe they are in Offline Network, but they might also be in a greyed-out drive under Dieser PC). You can check the volume properties of that drive to hopefully see why it no longer matches the current situation. Maybe the drive mapping is different, maybe a volume name or drive serial number has changed, maybe a server name.. but something has definitely changed.

The screenshots show that you have configured TP to not show the network in the tree panel, and that you are accessing the image files through a mapped drive letter, "l:".

So, a possible explanation would be that on the old computer, you did show the network in the tree panel, and you accessed the images through this Network entry in the tree.

To test this, you could turn off "Do not show the network branch" in Options | Preferences | Disks&Folders (and maybe refresh the tree, Ctrl-F5) to see if your old thumbnails can be found under 'Network'.

I have also tested the search function. The keywords entered were recognized. In the directory "Found Files" the found images with keywords were displayed.

I am at a loss as to how to proceed.

Well, as I suggested earlier:

"When one or more files have been found, open one in the viewer/editor and do File | Go to folder. This should take you to the folder where the file with the keyword was found and now you can check if the other files there have their keywords, too."

So, what folder does it take you to?

The volume information looks good. But it's strange that your old thumbnails can also be found under Offline Network, because that would indicate that the NAS is currently down... Or that your old thumbnails are no longer recognized as being from the NAS, but again, the volume information seems to match OK.

Earlier, I also asked: "Before proceeding, could you go to Options | Preferences | Thumbnails and turn 'make thumbnails automatically' off, if it isn't already off?"

So, was 'make thumbnails automatically' on or off?

ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Bad colors in animated gif
« on: 2021-01-07 13:03:48 »
I suspect that your sample file is corrupt or not fully compliant with the GIF89a specs.  When I use either ThumbsPlus or Irfanview to split it into frames, I get very strange results (frames with different dimensions, different parts of the image, et cetera). When I try to load it into JASC's Animation Shop or into Total Commander's viewer, they even crash.

The default background color for transparent areas is set in Options | File Loading | GIF.

By the change on a new PC, a new PC name was assigned. In the database there is a table 'hosts' in which an 'idhost' is assigned as index to the 'host' name. Here I also find the no longer used name of the discarded PC.

Maybe this is the reason that the keywords entered in the old PC are no longer displayed in the new PC. So I would have to test if this behaves like this.

Yes -- with images that are on a network, ThumbsPlus does use the server name as one of the properties to match the image files with the corresponding thumbnail records in the database.  However, my understanding is that this would be the name of the NAS, not that of the PC.

You could go to Options | Preferences | Tab:Thumbnails and see the section 'Volume matching strategy' (lower right). When you turn 'Match Network Drives Using Share Names' off, ThumbsPlus should use the volume label of the drive instead. Maybe that will solve the problem.

For this I would like to change the entries in the table 'host' to check this. Unfortunately I don't have an ACCESS editor. Do you know any software that can do this?

With MDB Viewer Plus you should be able to edit the fields that you see.

If the above doesn't help..:

Here I could find the pictures by entering of different keywords set in my former DesktopPC.

So, did you go to their folder? What is the name of the volume that the images are stored on, according to ThumbsPlus? Is it shown in grey letters, to indicate that the volume is no longer present? When you right-click on that volume and choose 'Volume Properties', it will show a comparison of its physical location and its database records. Something here may explain why the database records no longer match the physical volume.

When you look at the main screen of ThumbsPlus, there is a toolbar right above the thumbnail listing. There's an icon in it of a yellow lightbulb. When you click on that, is 'keywords' shown as 'On' there as well?

Before proceeding, could you go to Options | Preferences | Thumbnails and turn 'make thumbnails automatically' off, if it isn't already off?

I think you already know and confirmed this, but just to be 100% sure:  When images are on a NAS, there can be multiple ways to access them. For instance, by entering a UNC path, or by going through the network neighborhood, or through a mapped drive letter, or even by IP. With ThumbsPlus, it's very important that you always access your image files the same way as when you made their thumbnails. If you do not (and 'make thumbnails automatically' is on), then ThumbsPlus may show you thumbnails that do not have any keywords even though you have entered them and they are in the database. It's just that ThumbsPlus does not know that \\MyNas\Data\Images\Kids.jpg is the same file as P:\Kids.jpg. To me, this still seems to be the most likely explanation for the problem that you are seeing.

If that is not it, you could try this: Go to Edit | Find, press Clear All, set 'Restrict search' to 'Entire Database', go to the Keywords tab and press 'build list', then double-click on a suitable keyword and press OK to search for it. When one or more files have been found, open one in the viewer/editor and do File | Go to folder. This should take you to the folder where the file with the keyword was found and now you can check if the other files there have their keywords, too.

Are you positively using the same database as before and are you consistently accessing your images through the same path (in the tree panel) as before?

Did you, from outside of ThumbsPlus, change the name of the NAS server, a drive volume name on it or the name of a folder on it?

Did you store your keywords only in the database or also inside the image files (IPTC header of JPG/PNG/TIF) ?

ThumbsPlus Beta Discussion / Re: Update News?
« on: 2020-12-07 07:37:52 »
The latest statement dates from August and can be found here in the Beta section:

When there's further news, I'm sure we will see it here, on the website and/or through a newsletter. I am locking this topic because there's no further useful information at this point and speculation isn't helpful.

ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: convert HEIC to JPG
« on: 2020-11-14 10:13:26 »
ThumbsPlus doesn't currently support HEIC.

Something may have gone wrong with your search, though. See here for Laura's earlier comments on HEIC:

I've spent the last 45 minutes trying to figure out how to Tag an image into my gallery called "Review", rather than the default (Tagged Images).

That's not possible. When you tag images, they're also put in a gallery for your convenience, but as you have found, you can't specify a different gallery than 'Tagged Images'.

Is there a way to do this, or shall I give up and use the default?

The quickest way is probably to just tag (INS) the files one by one and then, when you're done, use Edit | Select By | Tagged (Ctrl-Alt-T) to select all the tagged files, and add them collectively to the gallery of your choice. Afterwards, use Ctrl-INS to clear the tags.

Or, try to find third party macroing software that you can use to automate the process. You would use that to record a set of keyboard and/or mouse actions (which would add the file under the cursor to the desired gallery) and assign that to a single key. This site offers some free recommendations, but there are probably more and newer options when you google around a bit:

Yes - see Options | Prefs | Disks & Folders for lots of options.

Like it says: when you acquire a pro-level license, the watermark will be gone. There's no other way.

Options -> Customize -> Colors

Excellent Jens, thanks!

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