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Messages - Daan van Rooijen

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my problem i foresee is how to get my keywords etc over to the new database.

If this only concerns JPG, TIF and/or PNG files, TP7 has an IPTC editor that lets you write your database keywords and annotations into the metadata headers of the actual image files (doesn't work for raw). When that's been done, you can create a new database in TP10, scan the image files, and whilst doing so have TP10 automatically copy the keywords and annotations into the respective database fields. There's a bit more to this procedure - holler if interested.

Anyway, it does sound like you have a problem in the converted TD4 database. If you want to look deeper into that (e.g. compare its structure to a new database), Alex Nolan's MDB Viewer Plus is a great (and free) tool for that purpose. Before doing all that, you could also try to simply re-scan your image folders (to rebuild the thumbnail records) and see if that helps.

On my lowly old system it takes a few minutes, but that's with an undamaged database that only had a few deleted records to clean up.
The Database Maintenance dialog gives you the name of the temporary file (that the repaired, compacted database is written to). Maybe you can look it up in its folder and see if it is still growing in size if you wait a few minutes.

Let me move the DB to the computer and see what happens ....


Put it on the SSD! It's going to be very slow on an external drive.

YES - T7 is blazing fast compared to t10 ..

Again, the bad performance that you two are seeing is not representative of v10 and is not inherent to v10. Its speed should be comparable to that of v7, and on my system (and countless others) it is.

AFTER doing the scroll/ wait/ display, and then scroll/ wait/ display to the end of the folder of images, the mouse scroll back and forward IS speedy and instant like it was in T7.

In addition to information from the database, TP also reads real-time information from the folder itself. I suspect that this is where the delays occur. To test this theory, you could scan a DVD or USB stick that holds images (enough to fill a few pages of thumbnails), then remove it so that TP's tree shows it under Offline Discs. Do you see any such delays when you're scrolling the offline images?

Well, good to hear that you got it to work again :)

On your laptop, could you lookup your shortcut (icon) for ThumbsPlus v5, right-click on it and choose Properties? Then, see what it says behind "Target:" and report that here? That will tell exactly where ThumbsPlus was installed.

So, which folder did you actually install the program into?

Right-click on the shortcut that you use to launch ThumbsPlus, choose Properties. See the 'Run:'-value on the Shortcut tab. Set it to Maximized and see if that helps.

Not sure what the edit batch metadata option is but I do see it. Would be helpful if TP v 10 would include a guide about how to use the various features.

Not sure what else to try in order to get TP v 10 to allow me to add or edit GPS data in jpg photos.

I can't get it to work either - not from the metadata panel and not using 'Batch Edit Metadata' (the latter allows you to change the metadata of multiple image files at the same time. However, it doesn't seem to support GPS fields).

ThumbsPlus has an extensive Help file. Just look under Help in the right-most part of the main menu.

An often-used free tool for geotagging (i.e. adding gps coordinates to photos) on Windows systems is Geosetter. Maybe you can use that instead.

Could it be that you're talking about raw files here?

With older versions of TP, you could only edit the metadata of JPG/TIF/PNG files, but v10 supposedly allows for the manipulation of metadata in raw files, too. However, this requires that you first activate an option "Allow creation and update of metadata in raw Digicam files" in the Options | Preferences | Metadata dialog. So, maybe that's what you have to do in order to get this to work.

The Help entry for this setting says: "ThumbsPlus can update metadata in most raw files, but after updating, some cameras will refuse to load the info. You can enable this option as long as you're not editing the metadata on the camera directly (through a mounted device), and as long as you don't plan to upload your modified images to the camera."

(btw, personally I would never write to my original raw files, but I guess working on copies would be okay).

Image | Batch Edit Metadata in the main menu is another way to edit the metadata of one or more files (if it still doesn't work through the metadata panel).

Have you used FFDShow's Video Decoder Configuration utility to make it A) handle that particular fourcc ('codecs' section) and B)  to make it work with ThumbsPlus ('DirectShow Control' section) ?  If you have disabled it for ThumbsPlus at some point, that last section is where you can revert that.

I don't think Windows offers you any controls over its disk caching. Maybe through the registry.. try Google.

I have a folder which I work with regularly which has about 20,000 files.

That's almost certainly the cause of the delays. With so many files, the folder will be read very slowly due to limitations in Windows. However, once it has been read, it will be temporarily stored in Windows' internal disk cache and then it will load faster during that session, until you, or a background program, reads some differrent folders that will then be cached at the expense of your first folder.

I don't think there's much that you can do about this. Defragmenting that drive may help for a while. Also, I believe there are third party drive caching tools that cache your HDD to RAM or to SSD, but I have no experience with them.

As for SQLite3, it used to be slow in earlier versions of TP, but it should offer very good performance in the current version 10 sp2.

It means that ThumbsPlus is reading the thumbnail records for that folder from its database, matching it to the image files on disk, and building the list so it can display it.

Things that may slow down the process include:

- When the folders and files are on a slow (network or external) drive
- When you have very large numbers of files or subfolders in a folder (e.g. 10,000)
- When you use Color Management in the thumbnail listing (Options | Preferences | tab:Thumbnail view | Enable Color Mgt and Options | Viewing | Color Management | Thumbnail View)
- When you display one or more User Fields in the thumbnail listing (press light bulb button above listing to select fields)

For many more suggestions see the ThumbsPlus Performance Hints on Cerious' website.

Anyway, rest assured that the program should (be able to) work much faster than you seem to be experiencing today.

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