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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Keywords doesn't get displayed
« Last post by runner on 2021-01-09 12:54:35 »
Well, as I suggested earlier:

"When one or more files have been found, open one in the viewer/editor and do File | Go to folder. This should take you to the folder where the file with the keyword was found and now you can check if the other files there have their keywords, too."

So, what folder does it take you to?

Afters searching by a keyword I switch to the "Fount Files" folder and open a picture in the view mode. Afterwards I use the line File|Go to Folder. That brings me back to the origin Folder every time.

The volume information looks good. But it's strange that your old thumbnails can also be found under Offline Network, because that would indicate that the NAS is currently down... Or that your old thumbnails are no longer recognized as being from the NAS, but again, the volume information seems to match OK.

In case the NAS is down I get a message on start up that TP cannot find the database. If the NAS has started TP works well so far. During the session: If there is no access for 30 minutes, the connection is closed. With the next access, the NAS starts up again immediately.

Earlier, I also asked: "Before proceeding, could you go to Options | Preferences | Thumbnails and turn 'make thumbnails automatically' off, if it isn't already off?"

So, was 'make thumbnails automatically' on or off?

The  'make thumbnails automatically' is OFF!

Attached some screens of preferences and the file trees with the general arrangement of my images
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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Keywords doesn't get displayed
« Last post by Daan van Rooijen on 2021-01-09 10:25:31 »
I have also tested the search function. The keywords entered were recognized. In the directory "Found Files" the found images with keywords were displayed.

I am at a loss as to how to proceed.

Well, as I suggested earlier:

"When one or more files have been found, open one in the viewer/editor and do File | Go to folder. This should take you to the folder where the file with the keyword was found and now you can check if the other files there have their keywords, too."

So, what folder does it take you to?

The volume information looks good. But it's strange that your old thumbnails can also be found under Offline Network, because that would indicate that the NAS is currently down... Or that your old thumbnails are no longer recognized as being from the NAS, but again, the volume information seems to match OK.

Earlier, I also asked: "Before proceeding, could you go to Options | Preferences | Thumbnails and turn 'make thumbnails automatically' off, if it isn't already off?"

So, was 'make thumbnails automatically' on or off?
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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Keywords doesn't get displayed
« Last post by runner on 2021-01-09 10:08:06 »
So far I have accessed the image directory via the UNC path. TP also offers an "Offline Network/home on Lanstorage" directory which also contains my pictures directory. By chance I found this directory for the first time, where all directories of my NAS ("Lanstorage" is the name of my NAS) are stored. So also the pictures.

When I was browsing through the images, the keywords were displayed at the thumps!

I must say that this is all a bit confusing. I would like to know why once the keywords are displayed here and on my former old PC in the normal directory path?

It would be nice if the developer could contribute something to clarify....
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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Keywords doesn't get displayed
« Last post by runner on 2021-01-09 09:45:41 »
Yes -- with images that are on a network, ThumbsPlus does use the server name as one of the properties to match the image files with the corresponding thumbnail records in the database.  However, my understanding is that this would be the name of the NAS, not that of the PC.

You could go to Options | Preferences | Tab:Thumbnails and see the section 'Volume matching strategy' (lower right). When you turn 'Match Network Drives Using Share Names' off, ThumbsPlus should use the volume label of the drive instead. Maybe that will solve the problem.

I have tried the tip. Unfortunately without success. Therefore I have set the UNC path again.

With MDB Viewer Plus you should be able to edit the fields that you see.

If the above doesn't help..:

So, did you go to their folder? What is the name of the volume that the images are stored on, according to ThumbsPlus? Is it shown in grey letters, to indicate that the volume is no longer present? When you right-click on that volume and choose 'Volume Properties', it will show a comparison of its physical location and its database records. Something here may explain why the database records no longer match the physical volume.

Attached please find a view of the current volume setup. The properties are as shown.

I have also tested the search function. The keywords entered were recognized. In the directory "Found Files" the found images with keywords were displayed.

I am at a loss as to how to proceed. It seems to me that I get no improvement with this image management software. It's a shame after working with it for so many years.

Many thanks for the help so far  :)
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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Bad colors in animated gif
« Last post by Daan van Rooijen on 2021-01-07 13:03:48 »
I suspect that your sample file is corrupt or not fully compliant with the GIF89a specs.  When I use either ThumbsPlus or Irfanview to split it into frames, I get very strange results (frames with different dimensions, different parts of the image, et cetera). When I try to load it into JASC's Animation Shop or into Total Commander's viewer, they even crash.

The default background color for transparent areas is set in Options | File Loading | GIF.
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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Bad colors in animated gif
« Last post by aslaksen on 2021-01-07 09:57:49 »
I have problems with many animated gifs. Sometimes they only show some of the images correctly, while all the images in between them have wrong colors. In this example, everything plays fine, but if I stop, and then try to move image by image using alt+page up/down, the colors are wrong. I think it has something to do with transparent background. Anything I can do with the image of ThumbsPlus to solve such problems?

Thanks!

Helmer
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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Keywords doesn't get displayed
« Last post by Daan van Rooijen on 2021-01-04 11:47:23 »
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By the change on a new PC, a new PC name was assigned. In the database there is a table 'hosts' in which an 'idhost' is assigned as index to the 'host' name. Here I also find the no longer used name of the discarded PC.

Maybe this is the reason that the keywords entered in the old PC are no longer displayed in the new PC. So I would have to test if this behaves like this.

Yes -- with images that are on a network, ThumbsPlus does use the server name as one of the properties to match the image files with the corresponding thumbnail records in the database.  However, my understanding is that this would be the name of the NAS, not that of the PC.

You could go to Options | Preferences | Tab:Thumbnails and see the section 'Volume matching strategy' (lower right). When you turn 'Match Network Drives Using Share Names' off, ThumbsPlus should use the volume label of the drive instead. Maybe that will solve the problem.

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For this I would like to change the entries in the table 'host' to check this. Unfortunately I don't have an ACCESS editor. Do you know any software that can do this?

With MDB Viewer Plus you should be able to edit the fields that you see.

If the above doesn't help..:

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Here I could find the pictures by entering of different keywords set in my former DesktopPC.

So, did you go to their folder? What is the name of the volume that the images are stored on, according to ThumbsPlus? Is it shown in grey letters, to indicate that the volume is no longer present? When you right-click on that volume and choose 'Volume Properties', it will show a comparison of its physical location and its database records. Something here may explain why the database records no longer match the physical volume.
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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Keywords doesn't get displayed
« Last post by Daan van Rooijen on 2021-01-03 18:53:07 »
When you look at the main screen of ThumbsPlus, there is a toolbar right above the thumbnail listing. There's an icon in it of a yellow lightbulb. When you click on that, is 'keywords' shown as 'On' there as well?

Before proceeding, could you go to Options | Preferences | Thumbnails and turn 'make thumbnails automatically' off, if it isn't already off?

I think you already know and confirmed this, but just to be 100% sure:  When images are on a NAS, there can be multiple ways to access them. For instance, by entering a UNC path, or by going through the network neighborhood, or through a mapped drive letter, or even by IP. With ThumbsPlus, it's very important that you always access your image files the same way as when you made their thumbnails. If you do not (and 'make thumbnails automatically' is on), then ThumbsPlus may show you thumbnails that do not have any keywords even though you have entered them and they are in the database. It's just that ThumbsPlus does not know that \\MyNas\Data\Images\Kids.jpg is the same file as P:\Kids.jpg. To me, this still seems to be the most likely explanation for the problem that you are seeing.

If that is not it, you could try this: Go to Edit | Find, press Clear All, set 'Restrict search' to 'Entire Database', go to the Keywords tab and press 'build list', then double-click on a suitable keyword and press OK to search for it. When one or more files have been found, open one in the viewer/editor and do File | Go to folder. This should take you to the folder where the file with the keyword was found and now you can check if the other files there have their keywords, too.
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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Keywords doesn't get displayed
« Last post by runner on 2021-01-03 10:47:29 »
Are you positively using the same database as before and are you consistently accessing your images through the same path (in the tree panel) as before?

Yes! I didn't chance anything, the paths as well the tree are as before

Did you, from outside of ThumbsPlus, change the name of the NAS server, a drive volume name on it or the name of a folder on it?

No the NAS, the access to the path are as before also. the same at volume and folder names.

Did you store your keywords only in the database or also inside the image files (IPTC header of JPG/PNG/TIF) ?
I entered all keywords into the database via ThumpsPlus interface. I have checked the database via the MDBPlus tool (viewer) so I could see the database table of the keywords. The Keywords are all in!
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ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Keywords doesn't get displayed
« Last post by Daan van Rooijen on 2021-01-01 16:10:41 »
Are you positively using the same database as before and are you consistently accessing your images through the same path (in the tree panel) as before?

Did you, from outside of ThumbsPlus, change the name of the NAS server, a drive volume name on it or the name of a folder on it?

Did you store your keywords only in the database or also inside the image files (IPTC header of JPG/PNG/TIF) ?
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