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Messages - Daan van Rooijen

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i may have asked this before but i lost the thread.

You can view all your old messages here:;area=showposts;u=27817

can i migrate from w7 to w10?

ThumbsPlus 5 was developed in the days of Windows 98 and XP. It was never tested on any current Windows version.

In other words, you can try but it's on your own risk.

what would i need to do to migrate everything to w10 or the surface pro?

Would that be on a new computer or are you just upgrading the Windows version on your current computer?

Do you want to keep your database (for all the keywords, annotations, off-line items, etc, that are in it) or would it be OK if you had to make a new one?

As I was researching drive Letters vs Volume names, I got the impression that changing the Volume Name was a bigger deal than just "rename".  People seemed to go through a bunch of hoops just to do that.

I wouldn't know why they'd do that. It's a pretty straightforward operation. Under DOS we'd simply enter a command like "LABEL D: DATA" and in Windows' Explorer you can simply right-click on a drive and change its name.

Anyway, DO remember that if you're going to change any drive volume labels, you must do it using ThumbsPlus. Otherwise the connection between your files and their records in the database would be severed.

My pleasure -- but one more thing that I should have said: I don't think that the suggested 'Drive_L' is a very good volume label. It refers to a drive letter but again, that might change at some point. It may be L: now, but it might be K: or O: later on, or it might be T: when you use this drive on a different computer. I think it would be confusing to have, for instance, a drive K: or O: that is named DRIVE_L ! 

For my own use, I prefer 'functional' drive labels like SYSTEM, DATA2, MEDIA3.

ThumbsPlus requires that each drive have a unique name (volume label) to identify it.

Two of your drives still have the factory-supplied label 'Elements'. At least one should be re-labeled, or else TP cannot tell them apart. Assuming that I: is the new drive, it would make sense to give that a new name. If the error message is gone, you can right-click on the drive in the tree panel and use 'Label Disk' to do this. You will not lose any associations if you do this from within TP.

Note: this has nothing to do with the location of your database. It is and remains where you've always had it.

Note2: the volume label of a drive is not the same thing as its drive letter. With removable drives, the drive letter may vary from session to session but the label won't change unless the user makes a conscious effort to change it. That's why TP uses volume labels to identify drives.

ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Relink old Galleries
« on: 2020-04-21 20:19:31 »
So is my memory faulty or do I remember a feature in old TPv? where it had a standalone/distributable version so you could put everything on a CD for example and distribute it anyone to use to view the files on the fixed media?

Yes, such a version did exist, but if you thought that the above solutions were cumbersome, I'd say that the CD version was not for you;D

ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Relink old Galleries
« on: 2020-04-20 21:45:58 »
How can I relink them to the current location?

This won't fix your galleries but it should re-link the thumbnail records to the image files.

- Make a backup of your database if you don't already have one.
- Launch TP10
- Make sure that Options | Preferences | Thumbnails | "Auto Remove Orphans" is OFF
- Make sure that Options | Preferences | Thumbnails | "Make Thumbnails Automatically" is OFF
- In the tree panel, open the current location of the image files. There should be no thumbnails (if there are, use Shift-Del to remove the thumbnails while leaving the image files themselves in place)
- In the tree panel, find the greyed-out folder that holds the old thumbnails (not the gallery - the folder!) and open it.
- Now drag-and-drop each folder that holds old thumbnails to the corresponding folder at the new location of the files. - This should re-establish the broken links between the thumbnail records in the database and the matching files.

As for the old galleries, there's no easy way to reestablish those. If it's important, I'd go back to TP7 and open the .td4 file and assign a unique keyword to the files in each gallery. Then convert the database, search for each keyword in TP10 and put the found files in a new gallery.

To be even more specific, how can I change the path on the files? All the files are linked to a CDROM that is no longer available but I have the same file structure and files to the folder I need on a network server.

OK, so here is an alternative approach. If you're a bit of a hacker, I'd recommend getting the free MDB Viewer Plus tool from (or use MS Access if you happen to have that. If you use the default database type in ThumbsPlus, it will be called *.tpdb8, but it's actually an MDB file)). Start a new database in TP10 and create a single thumbnail: that of one of the old image files at its new location. Open the database in MDB Viewer Plus and compare the field values in the PATH table to those for the old thumbnail. Hopefully you can edit the old thumbnail records to make them point to this new location. I'm not promising that this will work or that there won't be adverse effects, and there may be other fields (in the VOLUME table?) that need to be edited or added. Again, do keep a backup of any important databases. 

In case this ever gets moved again, how do I change the folder and file path to be relative instead of absolute? The database files will always be kept at the root of the photo folders.

Use ThumbsPlus to do the moving..!!  ;)

If that's impossible/out of your hands, and your image files are moved from one local hard drive to another (with their folder structure remaining intact), then here's a simple fix:

- Exit TP
- Open Explorer or your file manager of choice
- Change the volume label of the new drive to that of the old drive (exactly)
- Launch TP. It uses the volume label (not the drive letter) to identify drives, and so, it should now see the files again.
- In TP, change the volume label back to what it was (if so desired).

If this happens with a network drive, the solution becomes more complicated because in that case, the server name is also used as part of the thumbnail/file matching process. It's usually easiest to just edit the relevant field (I think 'netname' in the 'Volume' table) in the database using MDB Viewer or MS Access.

Those options cause ThumbsPlus to make database keywords from the folder name and from XMP keywords when it makes (or remakes) a thumbnail for an image.

If you want to add regular keywords that are stored only in the database, use Ctrl-K.

You can do this with multiple selected files at once, and you can assign multiple keywords by separating them with semi-colons (no spaces).

Oh now I see! You're trying to switch on the toolbar, not switch images on the toolbar :)

In the viewer, go to View | Customize | Tab:Toolbars  and turn on 'File' and any others that you may want to use.

They're right there -- the icons with the green arrows on a document. Or use Space / Backspace on your keyboard.

You're correct that there is no such option in the Image | Batch Process dialog. However, there is a different way of creating batch processes, and I think that may work in this case. Try this:
  • Open one of your images in the viewer/editor (simply by pressing enter or double-clicking on it).
  • Do whatever you want your batch process to do (select a section of the image, invert its colors, etc)
  • Now go to View | Actions in the editor's menu and press Create Batch.
  • I think you'll find your own way from there..  ;)

ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Start up Splash Screen
« on: 2020-01-15 09:40:18 »
In TP, go to Help | System Info and look for your Preferences Path. That is the location where your configuration files can be found. Their extensions are .INI , .CONFIG, .VCONFIG and .TP_PLUGCFG. You can save those or just backup the whole folder.

In the registry, look for Cerious and you'll find a number of entries that you could save including your license data.

ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Start up Splash Screen
« on: 2020-01-14 22:01:17 »
Good to hear and you're welcome!

ThumbsPlus v10 Questions / Re: Start up Splash Screen
« on: 2020-01-13 17:36:56 »
Try: Options | Preferences | Startup | Minimize startup progress display

If I understand the problem correctly, you want to identify images that exist in both folders or that have a similar copy in the other folder.

If so, I don't know of a command that would do what you want. But as a work-around, you could sort the results by path, then Tag the images from one of the folders. Then re-sort by similarity, and you can recognize matching pairs by the fact that one of the similar images has a tag and the other does not. If neither or both images are tagged, they are from the same folder and you can skip them.

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