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Thumbs 10 Release
« on: 2015-07-16 15:39:30 »
Downloaded it and find no reason to switch from Version 7 to 10.

Doesn't matter which version I use I cannot use Thumbsplus 7, 9, or 10 to initiate the scanning process for any of the scanners I have hooked up to my computer. They simply do not exist to Thumbs.

Version 7 handles IPTC info much better which is used on a large number of Department of Defense jpg files. Actually the only reason I use version 7 anymore is the IPTC editor and I like to quickly size scans to my screen of my computer without a hassle. Otherwise, it is useless to me too.

So no improvements here for me.

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Thumbs 10 Release
« Reply #1 on: 2015-07-25 13:44:59 »
I am totally with you on the subject of scanners James, I have a CanoScan 5600F that works perfectly in Thumbs 7 and every other bit of software but not in Thumbs 9 or 10.

I was hoping the issue would be resolved with Thumbs 10 but alas it wasn't.

I had tried all the usual things previously, reverting back to the earlier drivers etc but none of this had any effect.

I did manage to get it working once using the latest Canon drivers 14.0.7.47 and then  reinstalling Thumbs 9 builds back to 3938 and then forward again to 3946 and hey presto it worked !!

Unfortunately the next day it reverted back to being unable to detect any scanners.

I can always use Photoshop to scan but it would be ideal to use Thumbs 10 or is this too much to ask.

Thumbs 10 Release
« Reply #2 on: 2015-07-25 14:33:31 »
Thought I was the only one to have a problem with Thumbs not being able to detect scanners.

In my case it is all versions I own which have the problem, 7,9,10.

I like using the software but version 7 and before is the only version which is suitable for my work.

I found a way around the scanner problem. I change the default for pics to Thumbs 7 in Windows. Then I go to my manufacturer's scanner software to do a normal scan. When I save the pic it brings up Thumbs 7 for me to work on the photo. It actually works better than having Thumbs 7 initiate the scanning process since HP Envy remembers the last save pic name. I just add 1 number to the file name and I am on my way.

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METADATA/IPTC/EXIF/XMP #1
« Reply #3 on: 2015-10-14 18:00:24 »
ThumbsPlus v10 supports Metadata which includes IPTC.

The IPTC dialog boxes HAD to change as METADATA grew the dialog had to grow. The METADATA support in ThumbsPlus v10 far surpasses the IPTC support in ThumbsPlus v7. In fact ThumbsPlus v7 is far from up to date and should NOT be used for METADATA editing.

So, we need to know what it is that v7 is doing that v10 is not.

Please read the following and visit here for the fixes in v10:
http://www.cerious.com/release_notes10.shtml#sp3_meta

Metadata is information stored about a file, usually stored within it. For example, metadata about an image may include such things as:

· Who created it.

· A description of the image.

· When was it created.

· What were the camera settings.

· Who may  use it.

Overview:

Metadata is known as and includes various types of information, including XMP, File Info (Photoshop), EXIF and IPTC.

The most common file metadata formats and names are:

XMP:

An extensive, rich, and extensible standard for storing all kinds of metadata in files of many different formats. It encompasses and effectively supersedes many earlier format-specific metadata standards, including EXIF and IPTC.

EXIF:

Information from a digital camera or scanner when the image is created (or modified manually). EXIF is the name for a metadata standard originally based on tags from the TIFF file format, with extensions, that could be stored in TIFF and other file types. Today EXIF is most often stored as XMP.

IPTC:

Information supplied by a news agency or source and included with the image to make it easy to find who created it, why it was created, how it may be used, and so on. IPTC was originally stored in a block of information with its own format. Because IPTC included many fields applicable to wide use, and because it was the first real codified and supported standard, it was adopted widely for other uses. Today, like EXIF, it is stored as XMP.

Photoshop:

Photoshop has always had a File Info function which allows you to set up metadata. Most of its original fields were based on the original IPTC standard.

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METADATA/IPTC/EXIF/XMP #2
« Reply #4 on: 2015-10-14 18:02:23 »
ThumbsPlus uses the XMP format, which stores all metadata an an XML tree, and Adobe's XMP library, to store and maintain metadata. ThumbsPlus has its own internal list of "supported" XMP fields, but can display metadata not on that list.

ThumbsPlus allows you to modify or add many fields, but for compatibility with other applications, only those on its supported list, and only those which make sense to edit. For example, it doesn't allow you to edit the Exposure Time, since that is static information about how the image was created.

The Metadata panel shows the metadata for the current file. When you have selected a single file, you may edit the supported metadata in that file directly within the panel. To edit the metadata in multiple files, use the Batch Edit Metadata function on the Image menu.

Metadata in the ThumbsPlus database

ThumbsPlus automatically imports metadata for several items so they may be used to quickly search for images based it. These database items are handled automatically:

Date Taken

ThumbsPlus loads the Date Take in the database from the XMP/EXIF field Original Date Time.

Rating

ThumbsPlus will load Rating from the XMP rating field (xmp:rating) or the Microsoft rating field (MicrosoftPhoto:Rating). The Microsoft rating is converted from its 0-100 range to the standard 0-5.

Keywords

Database keywords are automatically created from XMP keywords, based on the XMP Keywords setting in Keyword Preferences. (For historical reasons, these are stored in the XMP bag named dc:subject. ThumbsPlus and most other software always refer to them  as keywords.)

Annotations

Subject to the option in the Metadata Preferences, ThumbsPlus copies the XMP Caption (also known as Description and Comment in some software) to the database Annotation field.

User Fields

You can also create User Fields for any metadata item, and if it has the exact same name as an XMP field, ThumbsPlus will automatically populate the field from the metadata item. All metadata fields in the database should be stored as Text, rather than numeric or date/time. You may disable this behavior in Metadata Preferences.