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Messages - DaFueg

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> Hi, Cerious!
>
>   Love your ThumsPlus Pro V8, and I'm considering buying it.  I've followed the program through its various incarnations over the years (I bought it once, years ago, and I'm sure I've lost the reg. key, so I won't even try asking for a free upgrade).  Anyway, I've tried V.8 Pro, and I'd like to ask a quick question or two before buying if I may...
>   For me, the chief attraction of the app is its editing functions.
>  I definitely do not want or need the database functions. Frankly, it's a mystery to me why they are still included, given the speed and physical memory specs of today's typical home systems. Even though it seems to be designed to do so, I really don't need the app to store a huge, exhaustive thumbnail snapshot of all the
> thousands of images on my system between editing sessions, since I
> rarely work with more than a few images in one or two directories
> at a time, and my system specs are more than adequate for generating thumbnails on the fly when start a session.  So, the questions are these:
>
> 1. Is Pro V. 8 the right version for me, or is there a more
> lightweight version that leaves out the database bloat but retains
> the very useful batch editing capabilities?
>
> 2. Is there a way to just switch off the persistent database
> thumbnail storage in V. 8 and force the app to read the directory
> structure and generate thumbnails on the fly when I point it at a
> particular directory?
>
> 3. I noticed as I used the app that it retains obsolte directory
> references even after i've deleted directories from the system.  This is bizarre.
> The program seems to assume that users' systems are more static
> than they in fact are.  I have lots of USB sattelite drives and
> other virtual devices that I'm constantly mouting, unmounting, hot-swapping....another reason not to try to maintain a big, static database.  Do you have a leaner, more efficient version of your app?
>
> Thanks alot for your time in answering my questions....
> cheers


I would say then you are using the WRONG type of program... what you really want is simply an image editor/viewer - something akin to Bridge and Photoshop.  The main benefit of a DAM application IS its database which is used for fast searching, tagging, editing, etc...  if you don't have a catalog,, how quickly do you locate a: RED FLOWER taken with a 90MM lens in JUNE 2010?  The catalog will enable you to quickly and easily search its database to locate this.... if you are not storing this info, then the program would need to pour through your images which takes a seriuosly long time - even on modern systems.  Also, a good DAM program will allow you to email images, create web galleries, slideshows, edit images, store versions, complex searches, auto-sync XMP, perform scripting,, renaming, etc...
 
Idimager allows you to read your external media and create previews in the database (another reason for you to use a catalog).  Then, the external media is still available for preview and search capabilities even without the original media...

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General Discussion / Overview to modern Iptc fields
« on: 2011-05-22 10:43:46 »
> > I do have a question about the Image Details box... I see how to add/remove fields and to move them... but if I want Keyword to appear at the top of the list.. it doesn't seem I can move it out of its "section"... this is very limiting and I would love to arrange these items and save them as profiles.
> This is pre-configured for common use. If you want to go this deep and customize the groupings, you need to edit the file xmpnames.dat.
>

Take a look at Idimager and ACDSee Pro 4 - both programs let you easily move around fields in the properties box - isolating those that you use often and eliminating those that don't matter to you without having to edit files externally.  This should be something that is included...

> > In addition, we should be able to define our own XMP schemas for usage within the XMP file section... if I want to add latin family/genus info about a plant - I'd want to do this in a custom schema like I can do currently in Idimager.  Thoughts?
> Hmm...adding custom XMP fields is a big deal, if you want to actually 'own' them. This requires that you define a URI-compliant namespace and namespace prefix to be used inside the XMP packet. I assume Idimager simply "hacks" this and adds its own namespace to it (not really in the spirit of XMP).
> Long story short: you could do this much more elegant, but this requires a bit more XMP knowledge. The xmpnames.dat file that contains ThumbsPlus' XMP configuration could then be easily extended to fully detect and load these custom fields.

When I say "OWN" them.. I just mean include the data in the XMP.  It doesn't have to be official... adding your own XMP schemas is a common practice - there is no big deal to this.. Lightroom does it... Idimager does it.. I do it.  Sure - other software won't be able to know what to do with it... but having this detail inside the file allows scripting access via the database.

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General Discussion / Overview to modern Iptc fields
« on: 2011-05-21 12:21:05 »
This was very interseting.. thx for sharing.

I do have a question about the Image Details box... I see how to add/remove fields and to move them... but if I want Keyword to appear at the top of the list.. it doesn't seem I can move it out of its "section"... this is very limiting and I would love to arrange these items and save them as profiles.

In addition, we should be able to define our own XMP schemas for usage within the XMP file section... if I want to add latin family/genus info about a plant - I'd want to do this in a custom schema like I can do currently in Idimager.  Thoughts?

Thx!

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