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Keywords doesn't get displayed
runner:
I installed a new PC. I have reinstalled my ThumpsPlus Pro 10 license on it. When I open ThumpsPlus Pro 10, the Thumpnails are displayed with the appropriate defaults. What does not work is the display of the keywords although I have marked the display accordingly in the setup. If I enter new keywords they are displayed. The old keywords are not displayed. What do i wrong?
My photos are stored on a NAS. OS is windows10 pro 64
Can someone help me please?
Daan van Rooijen:
Are you positively using the same database as before and are you consistently accessing your images through the same path (in the tree panel) as before?
Did you, from outside of ThumbsPlus, change the name of the NAS server, a drive volume name on it or the name of a folder on it?
Did you store your keywords only in the database or also inside the image files (IPTC header of JPG/PNG/TIF) ?
runner:
Are you positively using the same database as before and are you consistently accessing your images through the same path (in the tree panel) as before?
Yes! I didn't chance anything, the paths as well the tree are as before
Did you, from outside of ThumbsPlus, change the name of the NAS server, a drive volume name on it or the name of a folder on it?
No the NAS, the access to the path are as before also. the same at volume and folder names.
Did you store your keywords only in the database or also inside the image files (IPTC header of JPG/PNG/TIF) ?
I entered all keywords into the database via ThumpsPlus interface. I have checked the database via the MDBPlus tool (viewer) so I could see the database table of the keywords. The Keywords are all in!
Daan van Rooijen:
When you look at the main screen of ThumbsPlus, there is a toolbar right above the thumbnail listing. There's an icon in it of a yellow lightbulb. When you click on that, is 'keywords' shown as 'On' there as well?
Before proceeding, could you go to Options | Preferences | Thumbnails and turn 'make thumbnails automatically' off, if it isn't already off?
I think you already know and confirmed this, but just to be 100% sure: When images are on a NAS, there can be multiple ways to access them. For instance, by entering a UNC path, or by going through the network neighborhood, or through a mapped drive letter, or even by IP. With ThumbsPlus, it's very important that you always access your image files the same way as when you made their thumbnails. If you do not (and 'make thumbnails automatically' is on), then ThumbsPlus may show you thumbnails that do not have any keywords even though you have entered them and they are in the database. It's just that ThumbsPlus does not know that \\MyNas\Data\Images\Kids.jpg is the same file as P:\Kids.jpg. To me, this still seems to be the most likely explanation for the problem that you are seeing.
If that is not it, you could try this: Go to Edit | Find, press Clear All, set 'Restrict search' to 'Entire Database', go to the Keywords tab and press 'build list', then double-click on a suitable keyword and press OK to search for it. When one or more files have been found, open one in the viewer/editor and do File | Go to folder. This should take you to the folder where the file with the keyword was found and now you can check if the other files there have their keywords, too.
Daan van Rooijen:
--- Quote ---By the change on a new PC, a new PC name was assigned. In the database there is a table 'hosts' in which an 'idhost' is assigned as index to the 'host' name. Here I also find the no longer used name of the discarded PC.
Maybe this is the reason that the keywords entered in the old PC are no longer displayed in the new PC. So I would have to test if this behaves like this.
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Yes -- with images that are on a network, ThumbsPlus does use the server name as one of the properties to match the image files with the corresponding thumbnail records in the database. However, my understanding is that this would be the name of the NAS, not that of the PC.
You could go to Options | Preferences | Tab:Thumbnails and see the section 'Volume matching strategy' (lower right). When you turn 'Match Network Drives Using Share Names' off, ThumbsPlus should use the volume label of the drive instead. Maybe that will solve the problem.
--- Quote ---For this I would like to change the entries in the table 'host' to check this. Unfortunately I don't have an ACCESS editor. Do you know any software that can do this?
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With MDB Viewer Plus you should be able to edit the fields that you see.
If the above doesn't help..:
--- Quote ---Here I could find the pictures by entering of different keywords set in my former DesktopPC.
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So, did you go to their folder? What is the name of the volume that the images are stored on, according to ThumbsPlus? Is it shown in grey letters, to indicate that the volume is no longer present? When you right-click on that volume and choose 'Volume Properties', it will show a comparison of its physical location and its database records. Something here may explain why the database records no longer match the physical volume.
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