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Ahhh .. good call ... went in and sure enough that word was in there and capitalized
 8)

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hummm that sounds right ...

I can see that for adding a batch button too.

Im going to post another questyion about the quick batch vs batch in a separate thread ... lol if I have not already!

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Hello All..

Maybe I'm missing something. When in the page that has the thumbnails view, I can call up an image to photoshop (external program) using the icon I added to the menu bar, but I can't seem to add that external program button to my menu bar when I double click the thumbnail and call up just that image itself ( see attachment). I can add various (but not all) other commands to the full image menu bar  - but not the add external program to that menu bar. What's up.

Also, I would like to be able to add the batch command to the individual image menu bar, but cant see that it is available in that menu either.

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Hello all ... Sooo .. I go to add a keyword to an image.. I want to add the keyword "airplane" [ i use lowercase in my keywords]. T10 does NOT keep the lower case. It upper cases it to " Airplane" LOL... HUH .. I then keyword "airplane2" it does it correctly with all lowercase.

 :o


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i wonder if his problem is that he needs to create a clean new database and do the same thing as I did.

I just called up a gallery with 5900 images and 27gb size in about 1 second.


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General Discussion / Re: Metadata Batch Editor
« on: 2019-03-19 20:42:13 »
I used it to migrate from t7 to t10 and recreate more easily my galleries.

Step 1 .... Convert the td4 to a tdb8 database.

Step 2 .... Use the Metadata Editor to push all the gallery names  that the image is assigned to and the keywords into the Metadata of the image so that the gallery assignment ( name)  and the keywords always travels with the image. ( See image attached) and push annotations to the metadata comments. the keywords and gallery names are pushed to the metadata keywords field

Step 3 .... In the keywords preferences set the thumbs db to grab gallery names that are in the in the metadata  and put them in the Keywords in the t10 db.

Step 4 .... Manually create the gallery tree/folder names ( they will have no thumbnails yet)

Step 5 ... Do a keyword search on each gallery name ( because the gallery name has been key-worded) and then select all those images and slide them to the gallery. This creates the pointers and gets the images indexed to the right gallery.

Step 6 ... refer to the thread and Daans posts about it all..

http://forum.thumbsplus.com/forum/index.php?topic=5941.0;all

BTW I also include a shot from a cool program that tells you a bunch of info .. you can see the keywords I am talking about.

Exif Pilot is the name of the tool


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Laura

Please see my previous thread post about my success and making it all work fast ..

http://forum.thumbsplus.com/forum/index.php?topic=5941.0;all

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 :) ;) :D ;D

Success .. i manually had to re-create my galleries ( T7 does not move over the galleries) and then populate them with the images according to the Metadata procedure of Daan in previous replies in this thread .. Scrolling is now fast thru the thumbs of images and all is well now...

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I see..! Well, best of luck with it. When the whole procedure is over, you should have a much more responsive database.   :-)

Finished .. lets see what was that     only about 3 days to batch process the meta data to the 118,000 files ... only 257 errors .. now to go make the 75 galleries again ...

A prelim check indicates that things are scrolling fast now...

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Hey Daan

Did not try to use the T7 xfer utility on all these files ..

I started using T10 because T7 was acting in unpredictable ways on my Win 10 machine .. even after repairing that database.

So, I converted a td4 T7 db to the new T10 format, and then, on using T10 saw that the difficulty was arising on the slow scrolling... I also saw that the T7 was a bit buggy an sometimes would not fire up under my Windows 10.  Because of the T7 on Win 10 seeming bugginess and umpredictiblality, I stuck with the T10 Win 10 version and the tbdb8 new database structure. I have so many images that I did not want to do all the editing/metadata writing with my TD4 database in T7 and totally mess it up, so I stuck with the T10 metadata editor and changed to using  Win 10 T10 on the conveted tpdb8 file..  It takes about 1 second per image to process the data out of the slow-scrolling T10 "myconvertedtfromTP7td4 database into a clean T10 Win 10 thumbs.tpdb8 database.


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Well out of 118,000 images in my main drive .. I  only have about 90,000 more to index with the metadata utility ..... still running after 10 hours ... another 20 to go .....

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Hey Laura,

That is good info and I will follow up on it as I see if it still exists after I do all the actions suggested by Daan at the other thread ... I think maybe the slow folder load may also be related to the slow scrolling issue discussed more extensively at that other thread. 8)

http://forum.thumbsplus.com/forum/index.php?topic=5941.0


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AFTER doing the scroll/ wait/ display, and then scroll/ wait/ display to the end of the folder of images, the mouse scroll back and forward IS speedy and instant like it was in T7.

In addition to information from the database, TP also reads real-time information from the folder itself. I suspect that this is where the delays occur. To test this theory, you could scan a DVD or USB stick that holds images (enough to fill a few pages of thumbnails), then remove it so that TP's tree shows it under Offline Discs. Do you see any such delays when you're scrolling the offline images?


My preliminary tests indicate that if I do the steps mentioned by Daan to use the metadata editor to move the converted-from-t7-database image data (keywords and annotations) from my converted from T7 database [myconvereddatabase.tpdb8]  to the metadata in that same tpdb8 database, and then open the default database in t10, and rescan the thumbs, that the metadata now impressed on the image can be properly brought into the t10 database and the folders will scroll fast. ( thumbs will auto populate the thumbs databasae with certain fields that are in the image metadata.)

I think that there must have been a dangling participle in the old td4 database that was converted to a t10 database,  and that getting the images indexed by a clean t10 database will eliminate the slow loading and scrolling.

Ill keep you posted 8)

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Yes, TP10 can read the IPTC keywords and Caption when it (re)creates thumbnails, and copy their contents to the Annotation and Keywords database fields (which are shown in the info section of the metadata panel). See Options | Preferences | Metadata and Options | Preferences | Keywords.

LOL .. I was going crazy until i reread your post and remade the thumbs ... that annotation came in but not the keywords until I did that ...



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Not to worry  :o

I only have about 60,000 images and it only takes about 1 second er image to process in the batch mode so Ill be able to have a lot of coffee, do some push-ups, watch my grand-kids grow up, and then go back to see if the process has finished up!

i was thinking the same kind of workaround for the galleries.

Ill let you know how it turns out.

It appears now that doing things this way is going to speed up the scroll problem ... Fingers crossed



 

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